Спам в комментариях
Последний месяц у некоторых личностей, которых мы привыкли называть спамерами, какое-то обострение. Что мой личный блог, что другие проекты буквально завалены комментами типа:
Хотелось бы узнать поподробнее
В сложившейся ситуации приходится задумываться о том, как можно противостоять этому, потому как вручную копаться в этих дебрях становиться просто невозможно. Итак, что же мы можем взять на вооружение:
1) Сделать все ссылки через редирект.
- Малоэффективно, потому как подобные персоонажи даже не удосуживаются проверять проставленные ссылки. Да и зачем им это, гораздо же проще включить автомат со спамилкой по нескольким десяткам тысяч блогов и получить пару сотен ссылок в итоге, чем отбирать сто действительно немодерируемых блогов.
2) Сделать комментирование полузакрытым.
- Тоесть так, чтобы комментарий мог оставить только тот, кто уже ранее получал одобрение на комментарий. Опять же ручная работа, которую рно или поздно придётся прикрывать.
3) Плагины.
- Конечно, эффект есть. Но не смотря на это в каждом блоге ещё по 30-40 спам-комментариев приходиться убирать вручную.
4) Капча.
- Думается мне, всё-таки придётся её ставить, как бы мне это не хотелось. Почему не хотелось? Потому что будучи не только владельцем блога, но и рядовым читателем, я прекрасно понимаю насколько это неудобно и нудно разбирать, а потом ещё и перепечатывать эти запрятанные, пречёрканные и искажённые циферки и буквы.
А что вы думаете по поводу осеннего обострения товарищей спамеров и как с этим боретесь?
Рубрика: Интернет
Не поможет ничего. Они и капчу с удовольствием принимают. Посты, которые они комметируют, обычно содержат самые популярные запросы на текущее время - например в день появления Google Chrome все блоги , ну почти все, которые упоминали Хром, были откомментированы , по типу - “классная штука, где бы мне такую скачать” и бла-бла. Оставляют так же без обратных ссылок, но с “говорящим” ником, который рассчитывают, будет прогуглен.
Я начала собирать базу - сайты, которые продвигаются и такие “говорящие ники” , как я понимаю, ключевые слова. Пока пусть копится. Потом куда нибудь кому нибудь пригодится, надеюсь.
Арифметическая капча + Akismet полностью избавляют меня от автоспама. Да и вообще, по большому счету, я на любой спам в комментах практически не трачу время.
Ставь капчу как у меня. Сложить пару простых чисел - ни для кого не проблема.
P.S. Подписку на комменты так и не сделал
nordnati, а зачем пропускать комменты с “говорящими никами? Если коммент по делу, то я ник переименовываю в не “говорящий”. К тому же это их пунктов правил комментирования на моем блоге.
сори:
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Dimox, “Если коммент по делу, то я ник переименовываю в не “говорящий””- дак это таже ручная работа получается….
Valerjanka, “Не поможет ничего.” - как то не оптимистично звучит.
В любом случае нужно что-то делать…
Я для себя нашел мега-спасение в виде этого (dimoning.ru-captcha) плагина. И пользователям нет никакого напряга, ничего складывать не надо, а нужно только нажать на кнопку “я не робот”. До этого ежедневно падало по 30-50 спам-комментов, за последние 3 дня - ни одного )))
Да, но такие случаи у меня бывают очень редко. Видимо, правила комментирования все-таки этому способствуют.
Вы рассуждаете так, как будто это роботы. Это люди, которые “за копейку в поле зайца перегонят”. Так что хоть какую капчу ставьте, комментарии будут приходить.
Dimox, я ничего не пропускаю, удаляю сразу, даже если есть просто подозрение.
Jangl, чего то не подумала, надо было сразу “valerjanka” вписать
согласитесь, что спам и спамеры это неотъемлемая часть рунета…так что извольте…можно-то много времени разводить демагогию на это тему…но уж…
У меня на моём сайте WP-Ban стоит, на другом Spam Viewer вроде, норм, проблем почти нет.
Dimox, хватит блистать знанием тегов
Valerjanka, ну разве я мог забыть
. “я ничего не пропускаю, удаляю сразу, даже если есть просто подозрение.” - ну ведь надоест ведь рано или поздно и что делать тогда?
CrashOver, “WP-Ban” - что-то не слышал, что он делает?
St. Jimmy, а вы ссылочку (которая, кстати, в ноуиндексе и ноуфоллове стоит) не на продвигаемый сайт случаем поставили?
Очень красиво! Спасибо за ссылку! Давно искала эту информацию, спасибо.
Хе прикол, фильтры не работают
Саша, дак какие фильтры то?
У меня из автоматических только тот, который ставит коммент на модерацию, в случае если у него ссылок больше чем текста. А остальное всё ручками.
ну Aсisment должен был порубать мой первый коммент
Наверное арифметическая каптча и ручная модерация на данный момент остаются лучшими средствами.
Капча вообще не приемлима, гуманнее будет тогда вообще отключить комменты
получил от тебя в аське спам с просьбой отправить смс
проверяй комп, видимо ты это всем шлешь.
почему капча не приемлема? потому что ее вводить облом спамерам? Абсолютно нормальный вариант! Я поддерживаю ужесточение, но в меру!
Я удаляю все камменты которые ясно и четко не относятся к посту. Т.е. общего плана типа “открыл для себя новое”, “спасибо автору” и т.п. Причем они бывают весьма изобретательны, как например “я тоже так думала - но потом переосмыслила”. А вообще спам камменты раздражают. Я уже подумываю над тем чтобы камменты вовсе отключить, или сделать доступными только для вручную заапрувленных юзеров.
Все-таки лучшей защиты, чем капча еще не придумали.
Без спамеров реально никуда…разве что механически получиться более-менее удалять
Аксимет и иже с ним поможет откровенных роботов убрать, а вот тупые “Автор открыл для меня мир” можно только ручками
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